RACE INCIDENTS

[gorgias1976]

-why not make warmup longer and make it mandatory to read what admins have to say before race and no chat till they finish!?
like pit sharing,maybe fuel info,possible accidental errors in server setup...

Warmup sessions are taking a 7 to 8 minute duration, enough to check pits and check car again with fuel load. Every racer by then is expected to know the basic rules and to have read the announcement (which will include a text reminding to do the pitbox check during warmup).
In case of a global issue in the server during warmup that affects the racing Paul will take care of it delaying race start if needed.

-why not tell new drivers about server freeze issue and possible pause in race?
i had over 3 sec freeze.before that i was 6sec behind gorka and after that over 9sec.
the biggest problem is that i thought my pc crashed and was letting my wheel go and then game started again.
if i knew about problem i would keep my handa on the wheel

Already answered

-why admins lots of time come last on server and mostly at the end?

Nikos, DjC, Bryan, me and Paul, our general admin do this for the pasion we have for racing. We get no money in it while it takes lots of our private time. We all have our private lives and we cannot guarantee we will have the time needed, or at least as much as we would like.
Being an amateur non profit racing community we must be aware we can find trouble related to lack of real time administration

-is it so hard to to adjust servers right on race day?

The main problem of server parameter is that many times a parameter change requires server to be restarted. Looks plain and simple, but everytime that happened someone had trouble rejoining, other lost their non saved setup and complained...
But, what do you exactly mean by adjusting the server on race day? What type of changes?

like realroad not to change in drastic way from practice to race?
make realroad presets little more realistic,not like someone spill a glue on track..
i think there is better way to make RR presets much better and realistic..just ask i will make one

We've had rubber discussion a lot of times in our brief history. The final decision made from our members was to have server adjust to have rubber autosaved day after day in the week. The problem came after people wanted to practice for the race during the week and found a green track. People left because it was useless for them to practice in those conditions and find a proper car setup.
The way we have it configured now helps people join the server, practice and setup their cars while having the chance of racing other members online.

I think a good option would be to have the server set back to green when Paul sets the server for race day, two hours before qualifying. People during practice would have to start rubbering the track again.

-how can someone attend to race without "one single lap of practice"?

As you think, it would be best if people would have at least practiced the track enough to drive it fast. Well, we cannot force people to do that. As long as they don't cause a trouble on track I wouldn't worry about them.

-is it normal to push 15 laps to gain half seconds from car behind and then lose 5 sec in one corner?
because car lap down dont give a f... about blue flags?
(cant believe i still need to talk about B flags) :o
+blue flag cars fight with leaders a lot of times,and then he turn at corner making one of leaders crash..end of a race.
look back button,mirrors dont exist for some guys,even when someone show their self couple of times to car in front.
easiest part of the track,main straight.
or sometimes they decide to let you go in hardest part on track after they battles you couple of corners.sometimes even lap

I understand what you mean and only have had this issue with one driver that didn't let me lap him and he even defended himself after the race as having no need to let me go. As it hasn't happened a second time I won't bring that incident up again.
Blue flags must be respected and personally I've had no other isse with anybody else as everyone has been very polite to me when being lapped. I'd like to hear about other drivers about it.

-why there is no penalty system and some strict rules to follow?
sometimes sorry is not enough.someone who practice whole week for race and then make just one or few laps in race
because driver with "no practice" caused problems its not so fun.and usually he gets minor damage

That's what we are discussing here, create or not a penalty system.

-why try to change rules/car every season?
when those who practice more will all ways have better result in any tape of rules you set.
(unless guy with less practice get in the way in race).
so this is not helping slower guys to have better results.how can someone 1,2,3 laps always down make this change beneficial
(car physic change every lap is not helpful)from heavy bus to light car..
to be clear,for me is not much of a problem. but for those without practice and right setup will be disaster..
i would rather apply 2 mandatory pit stops for better tactics in race.no need for x7 things

-why if you want to help slower drivers to get up in front dont make some tips about track,braking points,fuel calculations,setups..
or even better make one day in week mandatory for practice race sessions,share setups to slower guys
(but those who received setup from faster driver will not become faster in 1 lap.they need practice with it,minimum 50/70 laps..)
so i would make 100 laps mandatory practice for race entry(shame liveracers not working anymore).

i know you will say not everyone have time to do 100 laps over week.
but if you do 10/15 lap per day at the end there you have +100 lap,and 10/15 laps are 15/20 min.
not much and if you do more laps im sure it will help in race.

i think if you dont have time for practice then you should skip online races till you get some..
to be clear,there are some of guys with less practice who perform good in races but sometimes dont.
its just not fair if someone sacrifice his free time for practice for race,for nothing..

Lot about this. We consider a friendly league, friendly driving comes before competitiveness.
Being a classic league we race the same tracks and cars way too often. Adding new stuff like the fuel multiplier comes from my very own, no other is to blame. As I've explained many times I do it trying to make people have different challenges, other way it would be as easy as load that old setup from that very car in that very track from last time we raced. I try, maybe in megalomaniac thought to give people new challenges.
You are not alone in this, Dan has always complained to me about this too.
Prior to every new season we create a thread to discuss about it, I encourage everyone to add their ideas (like yours about two pitstops) as normally this threads don't get that much talking.

As I said before we are a friendly league and we cannot force people to practice 100 laps for every event. Me for example am a recent father. Almost all my free time I dedicate it to him and my wife. I can only find time to practice on friday night and or saturday or sunday early morning. I guess many people have their own occupations in their lifes and can't expect them to have the same practice others can take.
I repeat, we are a friendly league and friendships comes before competitiveness. I was also very competitive when I started, that caused me anger, discussions and frustration that ended up in me taking half a year away from simracing. That helped me meditate my priorities in this and I realised I preffered driving for the joy of racing my friends than of the joy of feeling myself doing a racing career as if I wanted to become a proffesional racing driver.

-why not make/force rule,punished driver to do minimum 100/200 laps on server if he want to drive next race.+ points off
that helps him like all other drivers next race..

Same reasons I exposed at the last question.

-why not remove reversed grid?it caused more problems then it helps..

As in the godfather movie, war between families comes every few years until blood is spilled and then everything goes back to normal.
Same happens with reversed grid. Incidents happen, people get hot.... then people relax again, reverse grid works back again..... until we get too confident of our posibilities as drivers ans get into incidents again.
Firstly the reversed grid was created as a way to let drivers from the back battle the fast guys and try to put them into trouble, but I also agree it we should disable for the remaining of the season (though it would make race 2 a bit boring).

-why not make ballast if you want help slower drivers.lets say top 10 get weight penalty 2 race.+50,45,40kg...

As I explained some posts earlier I like weight penalties and would apply them if the majority wanted to.

-let say there is a formula two champ in real life..
and how many guys(drivers)will jump next season in faster car(formula one)??
one?two?yes maybe top three drivers.
but not whole field.
my point is if you want to become better driver and advance in higher class you need to stick to one car for longer period
and win better driver then you in that class.
so my view is to stick to one car longer period and have some fun races with other cars..
if you not fast with car with 100hp its hard to believe you gonna be better with car with 400hp+..
i have no problem running car less powered

I don't think this comes after lack of knowledge of a car. In our league there are some grown up folks that are not that quick, it's not car dependant, they enjoy driving at their comfortable speed. We never ask for a minimun to race with us.

-why change tracks what are proven to work good?
(same like cars)i personally like all tracks.why?
because i like racing and asphalt is asphalt and corner is corner.
i think one of first rule in racing would be:to get know track better you racing and its characteristics and then set the car..
so track more familiar would suit better for league like this.
but i like tracks you chose this season oulton and monaco a bit technical and hard,but im fine with it

Same as I said before. It's my intention to move people out of their comfort zone, that's why I try to "motivate" their brains by adding changes season after season (Though tracks are voted and many repeat season after season)

i have more questions but i leave it for next time..
if i get answers for this few im happy

i know no one want to be criticized.
its all good till there are no problems,but lets face it,this tape of sport(competition)needs some sort of strict rules
to be applied if you want fair competition.
we are not kids anymore so someone needs to take his responsibility for his actions.ME FIRST

All constructive critics are accepeted. We try to have open minds.

-i DISQUALIFIED my self from a champ going into J.R on purpose. :o
first time in my sim racing career i did that.i had mini brain explosion for a moment :o . did i deserve ban?dont know,you judge.

i wanted to race few races with you again and see if anything changed from my last champ with you..
but unfortunately things didnt change.same old story,with few exceptions.
some drivers surprised me in a positive way,some are good like all ways and even better.
but rest are wanna be fastest guy on track(without practice) or something,or i dont care its just fun race like guys..
that I will never understand.they will never get better in any tape of racing :'(

some of you know i was racing a lot with F3fanatics(and some other servers) before joined sr4l league.some of you invited me here.
then you probably know WIN is not so important to me,because i all ways was lifting to wait car behind
to catch me to have fun if im in front or making bigger gap.
or even let few cars ahead and try to have nice racing experience battling for positions.
my favorite part i when someone slower come closer to top times and feel how is to battle faster driver on braking points,closer battles..
and then that *thank you for that experience* means a lot more
but when someone is fast/faster im trying to catch him/them or try to make a gap for sure.lets face it,who dont want to beat faster drivers

i will see if joining again if some things change here in future,if im not banned forever.
but for now im off..i know you can race without me and have fun

have nice day & fun but fair Champ
cheers

I understand your point, but at this very moment I don't think we cannot reach that level of proffesional racing. I think the reasons for that can be understood from all I've said before.

As english is not my mother language and my accent is terrible for not speaking it, and as I don't have the time to review all my answeres I hope everything is well explained and I'm creating no extra misunderstandings